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Geico Makes Promises It Does Not Keep Print E-mail
Written by David Batstone   
David Batstone
If I were heavily invested in the auto insurance industry, I would have plenty cause to worry. Far too many people view insurance companies as scam artists. Put simply, they have a trust problem.

Before proceeding, I must put forth a disclaimer: It is never a good idea to mess with a columnist with international distribution. Worse yet, never mess with his parents. Geico Insurance did just that.

My parents, both in their mid-70s, switched to Geico a bit over six months ago. They twice had been involved in fender bender accidents in parking lots so State Farm, which had previously insured them, raised their rates dramatically. The fact they had been paying premiums to State Farm for over two decades without an accident or speeding ticket did not matter, of course. That particular inequity we can pursue on another day.

My parents called several companies, including Geico, to see if they could reduce their balloon payments. Geico offered them the best savings over their previous policy. As one might expect, the Geico agent inquired as to the details of their driving record, and my parents dutifully disclosed their parking lot mishaps. The agent offered an attractive rate, then encouraged both my parents to take a seniors driving course so that they could further lower their premium. My parents soon thereafter took the course and received the senior discount.

That was six months ago. Geico recently sent my parents their bill for the next half annum, and to their shock the premiums had doubled. Since my parents have been perfect drivers during the ensuing period, they naturally called to see if a mistake had been made. The Geico agent had no better defense than say that someone must have overlooked their two parking lot accidents. "And what about the senior driving course discount," my parents asked? "Oh, there is a new law in California that two senior drivers of a single car cannot receive a discount," the agent responded.

That news sent my parents shopping for auto insurance once again. Not one company they went to could say they had heard of any such law change affecting senior drivers. They quickly found a more favorable rate and switched away from Geico, their senior driving course discount intact once again.

As coincidence would have it, while these events were going on I received in the mail from Geico a marketing offer with a catchy ad line, "Fifteen minutes could save you 15 percent or more on car insurance." The flyer claims that a phone call could save you hundreds of dollars. Curious in light of my parents' experience, I made the call.

The Geico agent reviewed my driving record and auto ownership, then did the number crunching. He came back with a premium nearly exactly to what I currently pay with my current insurer. I informed him of that fact, and he quickly responded, "Well, you would be better off switching to us then, because we will lower your rates every six months you stay with us." Right, exactly my parents experience.

I went online to find out if the Batstone family simply suffered from paranoia. I discovered that Consumer Reports did a more systematic study of the Geico promise, tasking its staffers to make a quote call to Geico. They found that only four of the 14 people who called would save by switching to Geico. The others would actually be paying more, according to a WIS-TV (Colombia, South Carolina) story on the Consumers Report test.

Failing to deliver on a promise to deliver a lower rate falls into the category of white lies for which marketers feel no guilt. I advise companies, however, that making false promises you do not intend to keep eats away at the reputation of the company. And reputation is the guardian of the company brand. More serious a breach of trust yet is a bait-and-switch practice that converts customers to a lower cost policy, then raises the rates once the conversion is complete. That practice makes a customer feel betrayed.

The insurance industry is begging for a consumer revolution. They better change soon or bolster their ramparts for the counter offensive.

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Lars Nordstrom - Discrimination Rampant in Insu
2005-09-14 07:29:32
Just a quick comment on the Insurance industry, particularly the Auto Insurance industry, and blatant discrimination.

Insurance companies routinely discriminate based on race, age, gender, and marital status,yet somehow fall outside the anti-discrimination laws in the United States. I can only attribute this flagrant disregard for anti-discrimination laws to serious government lobbying.

Here's a "for instance":

As a single, white male, under the age of 25, my auto insurance costs were always double what my fianee's insurance costs were. Finding this odd, I called many different insurance agents and inquired about their rates and this discrepancy between my insurance costs and my wife-to-be's.

It turns out that statistically, I was a much higher risk driver than women in comparable studies. So, despite never having been in an accident, never having received a moving violation, or parking ticket, or indeed ever having been pulled over or found at fault for any type of traffic law infringements, I was a high risk driver. My lovely fiancee, with a ticket for running a red light, on her record, was statistically much safer.

I failed to see the logic of this.

When I would find a company that promised lower rates, they would pull the bait and switch routine every time. Start me off at a lower rate, then after 3 months they would inform me that I had been placed in a high risk pool. The only answer ever forthcoming was that, statistically, I was a high risk.

"Based on what, then, exactly?" I would ask, and the invariable reply was that it was because I was a single, white male, under the age of 25.

I think this makes Insurance companies immediately and irrefutably guilty of discrimination, and it's time the law intercedes. If I weren't accepted at a University for those reasons, the University could expect a lawsuit. If I weren't hired at a company for those reasons, the company could expect a lawsuit. If an insurance company denies equal and fair coverage to me for those reasons, they should be held accountable just as any other organization.

In this case, David, your parents are being discriminated against, and I say, what the heck. They're likely to be retired, and have time on their hands, maybe they ought to file a lawsuit, just to see what happens.

To this day, I have never received a traffic ticket or parking ticket, nor have I been in any type of accident where I was the driver. I've never made an insurance claim, and feel like I've thrown thousands and thousands of dollars away on nothing. Of course, now I live in Stockholm, Sweden, and I enjoy riding my bicycle to work instead. No insurance... wheee, I'm living dangerous!
Mary Snyder - Geico Car Insurance
2005-09-14 07:48:29
I had a similar experience as your parents. I was insured by AAA insurance for many years. I was hit by a deer and a year later I was hit by a motorcycle in which my car was totaled. AAA insurance dropped me.

I didn't take GEICO insurance because they were actually much higher than Allstate Insurance. In fact, they were almost double. Allstate uses a different formula than GEICO. They look at the stability of your income, how long you have been with previous insurance, how long you have owned your home, etc.

I live in New Jersey and there are many, many people who just do not have car insurance because they have had some kind of problem and the premiums cost too much. Their driver's license is revoked because of lack of insurance so they drive anyway.
Judy Hirschman - auto insurance; check out Amex
2005-09-14 08:11:37
It seems that one one the best kept secrets as far as auto insurance is concerned is insurance offered by the amex corperation. I have an american express card and switched to their auto insurance over 10 years ago. Their premiums were almost 50% less than state farm and lower than the geico rate i was quoted at the time. My boyfreind has been invovled ina a few fender benders over the years and i was involved in a major accident (not my fault) and the company has always responded in a quick and responsible manner. also it's very convenient to has my premium billed to my card on a monthly basis instead of getting hit with a bill every 6 months. if one has an amex card, it's definately worth checking out!
Joe Carter - auto insurance
2005-09-14 08:54:00
Dave,
You're so right about the devolution of the insurance industry into a commodity scam. Insurance is no longer insurance, it's merely a loan for if you dare make a claim or are unfortunate to have one placed on your policy, your premium will inevitably rise. The insurer wants its money back; it has in essence merely loaned you money for claim payments. I think there's a regulatory shortfall here; state regulators need to take a close look at industry practices that seem aimed at all but eliminating insurer risk.

Anyway, having crossed over to the 50+ crowd a couple of years ago, a I got a great deal from the AARP insurance program, which is underwritten by The Hartford. Cut my Geico "bargain" rate in half.
Carol L. Skolnick - It's not just the insurance i
2005-09-14 08:56:03
I don't drive or own a car, so I can't speak to Geico, but I had a similar incident with my mortgage lender, Citibank, a few months ago. They have been bombarding me with "you're pre-approved!" messages for years, offering to lower my payments exponentially. The quote I was given was not exponentially lower, but it was okay, I would save abour $25 a month, factoring in fees as quoted.

I made sure to pump the sales rep for details -- exactly what were the fees going to be, etc. He gave me an estimate but did not say it was an estimate. I had to pay a big chunk of money upfront, and only then did I receive my shocking contract. Shocking because none of the numbers looked familiar.

You wouldn't think that paying 5.75 % would be the same as paying 7.25%, but it basically was...plus Citi (rhymes with another word) gets more cash upfront, I lose valuable man-hours wading through and filling out paperwork, and I end up with no end-user benefit. Even Citi couldn't argue with me; the facts were the facts, the rep lied. They cancelled my contracts. A lot of banks would not, I imagine. Caveat emptor.
Richard Mosher - Geico etc.
2005-09-14 09:25:37
I had a similar experience, though not as dramatic, with Geico. After I had a fender bender, AIG raised my premium. I got a quote from Geico which was $50 less than the AIG raised rate, not remotely near 15%. I was reluctant to switch for such a paltry savings, but the sales person told me that Geico would lower my premiusm if I had no more accidents. Of course, six months later Geico raised my rates, claiming that the Ford Focus was proving to be more expensive, and rates in my state had gone up, etc. At that point, AIG didn't offer me a reasonable rate, so I stayed with Geico for another couple of years, during which time my rates increase a slight amount every six months. Then I became 50 years old and joined AARP. The Hartford sent me a solicitation by mail, and I called and found they were less expensive than Geico. I didn't move immediately, as I wanted to check with my wife that she approved of the change, and when I called back The Hartford claimed they were not writing any new policies at that moment in the Northeast because there was a threat of a hurricane. So I stayed with Geico another six months, as my insurance was about to lapse. Then, this past February, with plenty of time so I wasn't under the gun, I tried again with The Hartford and the AARP plan. This time I did very well. The Hartford saved us approximately 30% over the offer that Geico was making at the time, and they wrote a policy for a whole year, so there will not be any increase after six months. I don't know what will happen next year when it's time to renew, if The Hartford will try to jack up their rates, but it might be worth looking into for your parents, who are certainly of AARP age.
Lynn Durham - Bad faith insurance
2005-09-14 10:19:37
Check out their website
Cathy - Geico Insurance
2005-09-14 10:25:30
Last year I switched from State Farm to Geico. My rate was reduced by $300.00 per six month period or $600.00 per year. I had a fender bender this past winter, on a Saturday, went home and reported it. Within two weeks everything was taken care of and that included getting a refund on my deductible. When my policy was renewed for the new year, instead of my rates being raised due to the accident, they were reduced by $10.00/payment. So, I guess it depends on who you deal with and, perhaps, what state you live in. I have nothing but good to say about Geico-maybe I'm not a senior citizen yet but AARP thinks I am as I'm over 50!
Bernie - Insurance and ethics
2005-09-14 10:34:30
Dave, your blog is great. Most insurance companies cheat out of fear and greed. They live in a fear-elevated business environment. Auto insurance is just the tip of the iceberg, although I don't have to complain too much about Allstate. Allstate does not complain about us either because payments are a one way street: premiums to them years after years. We are lucky and we never were tempted to shift to Geico as their pub seems phony to us. Beyond auto insurance, look also at the cheating of medical insurance. Example Aetna and all the PPO scams. They always repay less than what they promise cheating clients on unit cost, % of repayment and deductible. Let's make sure we all stay in good health. Thank you Dave for your ethical concerns and to have the courage to act on them. In a couple of days I will place a link to your rightreality blog on my Little Flower blog if you do not object. God bless, Bernie
Little Flower
Medjugorje Charity
Bryan Waters - Getting screwed by GEICO
2005-09-14 10:36:43
Halloween night, 1997. GEICO is my car insurance company. My two young kids were trick and treating. I would take them from house to house in my mini-van. We pulled up to a new house. In her excitement, my then 7 year old daughter opened the passenger door and ran out. Her then 2 year old brother, who was leaning on her, began to fall out of the passenger door without his balance. I quickly grabbed the back of his costume, helping him avoid a face-first tumble into the curbside. When I grabbed him, my right foot inadverdantly slightly came off the break pedal. Unknown to me, my vehicle slowly crept forward a few feet. Then--bam! A slight--very slight--fender bender with the car in front of us, also stopped for trick or treating.

The person in that car jumped out. She came running to the back of her car. I got out of mine. We surveyed both vehicles. Our conclusion: No damage. We got back into our vehicles, me very relieved that my son hadn't been hurt and proud of my quick reflexes.

Fast forward about three years. In the parking lot where I pick up newspapers to deliver, I have a fender bender with another carrier. This time, slight damage. My first accident in years. I get in touch with GEICO. In the midst of that process, I ask how this accident might influence my premiums. The guy on the GEICO line informs me that GEICO made injury settlements with three persons from the Halloween 1997 incident. You read correctly--three injury settlements! They never told me! They never interviewed me! They just kept slightly raising my rates! (I was mid-30s, living in Oklahoma City, I just assumed it was my age and city living and their corporate greed that led to my premiums never lowering.)

I got off the phone with GEICO that instant, found another insurance company, and have never looked back. I tell every person I can this story if the insurance industry becomes a part of our conversation.
Jon McKenzie - Corporate Advertising (Auto In
2005-09-14 10:46:36
I certainly had a similar experience with Geico and eventually switched to AIG, which was $150 a month cheaper. My gripe is they brag how "easy" it is to apply, "in little as 15 minutes". I went online (first mistake) and filled out the application, which took 45 minutes. Later I got a telephone call and had to verify everything on the application with the telephone rep (2nd mistake) which took 30 minutes. There was a big emphasis on my driving record and when violations and claims happened. I'm not sure why they do this, since they have access to a database that has my driving history in it already. I think they use my poor memory as a way of lowering the initial premium and then later when the audit occurs, oh well the policy adjusts prices. What a scam. later I got a packet of unorganized confusing papers in the mail and again had to re-apply and sign everything. What a joke! There's nothing easy about applying for insurance online. You have to do it three times! BEWARE!!!!
Gerry - Insurance
2005-09-14 10:47:12
I suggest you go back to State Farm...they are the only large P&C insurer committed to its policyholders instead of stocholders.
Norma - Insurance Ethics
2005-09-14 12:48:40
As well as car insurance, the results of Katrina will be devestating to those without flood insurance. What kind of ethics are evident when the insurance industry denies claims due to flooding? I think the entire industry is pushing the limits, and at some point a "consumer revolution" may be the only way to get things changed. But how does the populace revolt when our hands are tied by our own state governments, requiring us to "invest in" and support the stock holders without regard to ethics. I could continue, indeed there are many more issues where ethics have slipped through the cracks, but I wonder how much longer the insurance companies can continue with their underhanded, back stabbing, corrupt ways?
Dave Creswell - Insurance Scams, Auto and Othe
2005-09-14 12:59:30
"The insurance industry is begging for a consumer revolution. They better change soon or bolster their ramparts for the counter offensive."

Don't count on it. Against whom would this revolution be waged? Revolutions topple power structures and replace them with new power structures. What power structure will replace the one toppled in this case? There is no replacement.

Thanks to a government owned by special interests (read insurance companies, among others) we don't have consumer-oriented car insurance alternatives. Indeed, if we choose to opt out of the auto insurance scam we become lawbreakers.

Interesting, isn't it: We are required by law to contribute to the coffers of the auto insurance industry, but the insurance industry can pick and choose those it will cover and at what cost. In most states we're required by law to submit to the scam but, again in most states, there's no reciprocal requirement for auto insurance companies to cover us. They can refuse and we can't.

The auto insurance industry isn't the disease, it's a symptom. The disease is a collaboration of economic power (medium-size & big businesses) with political power (corrupt, self-enriching government) to entrench and maintain a social system that voraciously sucks whatever meager drops of blood it can from economically anemic individuals, collecting those millions of drops into vast lakes of blood for wealthy rich and superrich vampires. And no matter how deep and wide that lake grows it can never slake that vampiric thirst.

A consumer revolution against auto insurers? Not until government starts working for us, not them.

Don't hold your breath.
Chris - Been there, done that
2005-09-14 14:08:29
Having suffered similar experiences with a couple different insurance carriers based on incidents as minor as windshield dings and stereo thefts, I continue to be amazed at the great service, reasonable rates and good communications of my current carrier -- USAA. They have insured my cars for several years and have now earned policies on my home and sailboat. I have two teenage drivers and a custom-made sports car, so many insurance companies would have sent me packing years ago, regardless of our relatively clean driving records. I also receive a dividend check every year as the company pays a customer bonus if it remains efficient. If you're eligible for USAA coverage, give them a try. I don't think my experience is an isolated case of satisfaction.
Danny Samuel - What is Buffett doing with Gei
2005-09-14 14:55:15
Great column David. I hope people make it all the way to the bottom because your point there is critical ? companies that routinely tell half-truths or flat-out BS to consumers should eventually pay for that. What?s interesting to me is that the company is owned by Warren Buffett, a guy I see as having the utmost of integrity. Go figure.
Serge Knystautas - GEICO's failed promises
2005-09-14 15:28:07
My mom had a similar experience to your parents, except instead of just raising the rates, GEICO at the last minute informed her they wouldn't insure. After having cancelled the previous insurance policy that included long-term customer discounts, she had to start from scratch with higher rates.
Joe Burns - Geico Scam
2005-09-14 16:54:29
I live in NJ where, we are constantly told from every quarter, auto insurance is the highest in the USA. Geico recently began doing business in NJ and has barraged the media with promises to save us 100's of dollars on car insurance. I have been insured with State Farm for about 11 years. I called Geico when I bought a new car. The Geico quote was about $20.00 higher than the price at State Farm for the same coverage. Geico must have given too many 100's to the previous caller and decided recoup it with me.
Janette - Blind trust in USAA Ins
2005-09-15 10:35:37
I have to admit I use USAA Insurance without having ever done research to compare rates with other firms. Why? Trust. Their service has been impeccable; their follow-up on claims expedient and throrough. I don't feel like I need to look anywhere else, and if I can save 20, 30 even 50 dollars a month with another company, that price point won't move me to switch. So there's one example of what trust will get a company.
Chris - David's parents
2005-09-15 11:03:18
This is what happens when you deal direct and try to bypass an agent. Any good agent worth his or her license would have told your aging parents to stay where they were and, assuming no more fender-benders, their premium would have gone down. To be honest, their State Farm agent might have advised not to turn in the 2nd fender bender in the first place. Insurance companies hate frequency, and anything more than " one " indicates frequency to an underwriter.

Mature drivers need to stay married to each other and thier insurance companies.

Chris in AL
Independent Agent for 33 years
Curt Rosengren - Knowing Your Geckos
2005-09-15 16:37:22
It?s funny. After I read this, I hopped in the car and up pops a radio commercial for Geico that has always driven me nuts. During the commercial, they call the gecko Washington state?s unofficial state amphibian. That wouldn?t be so bad, of course?if it weren?t for the fact that a gecko is a reptile. They?ve been running the ad for months now.

OK, so that doesn?t have anything to do with the integrity of the company, but it is something that makes me scratch my head and wonder what the folks in marketing are thinking. I mean, the gecko is their company mascot - don?t you think *somebody* there might know it?s not an amphibian?
Donna Vannatta - Geico - All telephone, all the
2005-09-15 19:07:38
I recently learned of something Geico did to a friend of mine after I told her not to go with them in the first place. Another Company with reps you can?t look in the eye when you have an issue?all telephone!!

They definitely bait and switch; anything to make a sale. They will raise your rates after 6 months, change the amount after you send the money and then are rude and act ?dumb.?
Sonia Friberg - Switching costs
2005-09-15 19:08:51
One week ago I went online for a quote from Geico. At the time, I had a multi-line policy with State Farm, however my auto ins was ending on 9/11. That?s the day I went to Walmart and ?express moneygrammed? my premium to Geico as I was instructed to by a customer service person on the phone. When you do the quote online, you are instructed to call the number that appears on the page. On Monday I called to give them a fax number to fax my temporary card and was informed that the quote would be almost double because there was a lapse of insurance, that lapse being 1 minute. I told them to forget it and send my money back. I called every day this week and no one knows where the money went , but they said they are researching it, a whole week and they don?t know where it is.
Patrick - Computers, not People
2005-09-16 10:01:07
My father had Geico for over 25 years, then back in the early 90's they dropped him. Similar to the experience your parents had with State Farm, he had two claims within a year, both under $1000. But rather than raise his rates, they canceled the policy. House, four cars, everything.

He called Geico upset asking to speak with a supervisor or manager. It seamed computers, not people were now making the decisions. His record and loyalty had no bearing.

No one in our family uses Geico.
Jason E - Poor Taste - Good Info
2005-09-16 10:46:48
David,
I enjoy getting your newsletter. I thought the use of the column for such a unobjective topic was in poor taste.

I would welcome a more objective report on the ethics of insurance companies.

Peace,
Jason
Carolyn - So I guess you are in the Insu
2006-10-22 18:53:01
So Jason, I guess you are in the insurance business huh?
David Batstone - Did I Lose My Journalistic Obj
2005-09-16 12:54:18
Thanks for your courage, Jason, to question my journalistic integrity. Since I am putting myself out in the public eye, I expect to be held accountable. Indeed, I so value the ethics of journalism, I want to respond to your remark.

I would wholeheartedly agree with you if if I was presenting myself as a journalist. My column in the WAG, however, falls clearly in the op-ed genre. I do not purport to be doing investigative reporting, but self-consciously offer a point of view. My negative family experience is the launching point for me to look further into Geico...and lo and behold, the evidence I receive from a Consumer Reports study and my own test case - a customer call into Geico - support a troubling pattern that caught my parents in its path. If there is any doubt about a "pattern" here, read the comments from other readers below. I received an equal number of more personal emails in the same vein.

In fact, the Geico piece is a bit more grounded in research than I often write. I recall writing a piece in the Spring about United Airlines, and how appalled I was by a lack of customer service I experienced on a trip to Colorado. Given the nature of the op-ed genre, I did not offer an objective, investigative report on customer service in the airline industry.

If you get a hold of a copy of Worthwhile magazine, you will note that I do indeed write investigative pieces that uphold journalistic objectivity (see, for example, my piece in the current issue on creative perks for employees). Upon occasion, I do write some op-ed pieces for the magazine as well.

All to say, my opinions in the WAG are to be taken as just that. I hope my readers will be able to glean some insight from them.
vmpando - Can anyone help?
2005-09-16 13:30:43
GEICO has taken premiums from me for 17 years. Four years ago I was injured in a motorcycle accident. I had to sue GEICO to get payment. They claimed that my neck injuries were not caused by the accident. My three surgeons and their own got up and testified that my injuries were caused by the accident. I did not win the case against the defendant and her insurer, State Farm. Now GEICO refuses to pay my bills. Moreover, GEICO hid behind State Farm during the trial. I don?t know what to do next to get them to pay. The juries verdict concerned contributory negligence, which in Virginia, you get nothing if the jury finds you 1% negligent. Any advice would be so appreciated. Thanks.
Ben - A grassroots movement possible
2005-09-16 13:32:44
I wonder what would happen to Geico?s business if customers started asking Geico reps to guarantee in writing that there would be no increase in premiums (within 12 months or so) as long as there was no change in the insured?s driving record? Most likely, Geico wouldn?t do it so the potential customers would go elsewhere.

With the Internet linking the whole world, how hard would it be to get a grass-roots movement to make that happen?
David Batstone - Who Can You Trust?
2005-09-20 21:56:23
I am grateful that a couple of posts suggested car insurance providers that actually provide a service and treat them with dignity. I'd love to hear positive experiences from our blog community as well. To borrow (and paraphrase) the tagline for a major insurance provider, Who can you [really] trust?
Jennifer - The Under Belly of Insurance P
2005-09-21 18:46:27
Thank you for your well written article David. As a small business owner, researcher of reputable businesses, and advocate for my aging mother, I applaud your insight and passion.

Unfortunately, I have found that GEICO is not alone in misleading or ruthless practices. My husband worked for MetLife, Waddell and Reed, and State Farm before leaving the financial planning and insurance arena. He left before anyone else tried to suck the honor and integrity from his soul for "the numbers" or "the bottom line".

The crimes against customers and employees ran the gamut from being told to sell hefty life insurance policies to 19 year olds who were doing well to purchase small ones ("THEY don't know what they need! YOU tell them what they need!") and not covering clients following a 75% staff exodus, to female employees being cursed and pinned against the wall by a tyrannical, threatening female agent.

I have long known that many businesses do not operate in a manner they would have their customers believe. Thank you for supporting this belief.

Now, do you think you could focus your next article on the Marketing Results Group of New York (or um... Las Vegas)?
Anonymous - A note from Geico
2005-09-26 16:49:44
As an employee for GEICO, the author?s parents were the victims of a wiley sales rep, who either intentionally, or unwittingly failed to run the motor vehicle report to see the two accidents. Unfortunately, GEICO does not arm its sales departments to think, and act like an underwriter. The sales department is under pressure to make quota, and will sell a policy any way that they can, which unfortunately runs counter to the integrity and ethics that GEICO attempts to instill in all its associates. The particularly bad sales associates create a bad name for the company. Instead of dutifully running the MVR report to quote the correct rate the first time, they quote a rate based on no previous accident history. As far as the driver discount goes, it is not necessarily law, but GEICO policy to give the defensive driver discount to the primary driver. If the policy is only a one car policy, then the service rep did a disservice to the author?s parents by not advising that only one discount per vehicle is given. But even with 2 vehicles on one policy, if the same person is primary on both vehicles, the discount will only be given once.

And to address the author?s last point, about rates being lowered every 6 months, this can be true depending upon company placement. If a higher risk customer signs on with us and stays, and pays their bills with no cancellation notices or adverse driving incidents, then we will lower their rates by approx 5%.

To address another comment that someone made about a lapse of insurance- if it was truly only one minute and you had not lapsed previously, kindly ask to speak to a supervisor who would look at your policy to maybe reconsider for you. Honestly though, letting your insurance lapse hurts you because if you go somewhere else, they will ask if you?ve had a lapse (and they will find out trust me), and you WILL end up paying higher premiums. Always call the company and work out a payment arrangement.

Just some tidbits from someone who has worked in service and now works in claims.
CJ - Pay More Attention
2005-10-02 17:31:04
The key word in the slogan is COULD. You are dumb if you missed it. If GEICO saved everyone 15% or more, why would there be other insurance companies.
GEICO is a terrific company. As with most insurance companies, your rates will increase if you have an accident or speeding ticket. If you have a pristine driving record, with no atfault accidents in the past 5 years, most of the time you qualify for accident forgiveness. So, even if you total your car and 3 others, your rate doesnt go up. Now if you do this again next year, yes you should look at your rate increasing. Most people dont like paying for car insurance. Its something there for peace of mind. Just like health insurance. Do you complain everytime you make a payment to them too? Would you rather shell out thousands of dollars everytime you are sick, then a few hundred when you need a prescription? Didn't think so.
Jason/SF - re: Pay More Attention
2005-10-19 14:46:08
Pay more attention to the article before shilling for GEICO.

As clearly stated, the author's parents were informed IN-PERSON by a GEICO sales rep that they WOULD receive lower rates, even after they disclosed their recent accidents, and that they WOULD receive a discount for completing the senior driving course. And, as reported, they did not, clearly indicating that GEICO is sleazy and unethical.

Further, Consumer Reports found that less than 1/3 of those who called GEICO would actually get a lower rate! Perhaps they should change their slogan to "You probably WON'T save 15%." If you actually have a positive, real-world experience with GEICO to share, do so. Otherwise, spare us the transparent apologist ramblings...

Oh, and btw, after getting ripped off twice by Farmer's Insurance 20 years ago, I switched to AAA and have never looked back (for homeowner's, too). Multiple claims for damage to our vehicles and property theft have always, always, always had a professional response and immediate payout. I cannot recommend AAA highly enough.
Jason
SF
Anonymous - Discrimination in Insurance
2005-11-15 18:22:04
While being a single male of a particular age is unquestionably going to determine insurance rates, one's race is never, in any of the 50 states, a consideration. I simply don't believe the poster above who claims he was told (repeatedly, and by numerous companies) that being white was a factor in his insurance rates. And if he is telling the truth, he's got a whopper of a potential lawsuit.

That being said, auto insurace rates are based entirely on discrimination (all perfectly legal as long as we're not talking about race). In reality, the 25-year-old poster above might be the safest unmarried 25-yr-old driver in the world ... but statistically he's much more likely to have an accident than, say, a married 32-yr-old female with a masters degree, good credit, etc. By the same token, a married couple in their seventies (with or without any recent accidents) are also a higher risk.

As for what happened to your parents, that's unfortunate. My guess is that the agent who helped your folks simply made a mistake - something that happens in every industry, including journalism.
MONICA - GEICO
2005-11-18 14:35:33
Several years I also had Geico insurance and was involved in a accident no fault of my own when a vehicle reversed from a parking lot and backed into my vehicle without seeing me before I could shift my car into reverse, I called Geico and reported the incident, the other parties insurance company paid for the full total value of the damage to my vehicle including a rental car, next thing I knew, Geico sent me a notice that Geico was cancelling my insurance with them, I had Geico insurance for years, a few months later I received in the mail an advertisement for Geico encouraging me to sign up for their auto insurance, what a laugh.
Legal Reps - CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST G
2006-11-02 13:22:06
1. Look at your last/current bill.

2. Go to GEICO.com and type in EXACTLY your same policy, as the one you or your family currently has.

3. If the difference is 30% or more...

Write to: Wonderstrike (AT) gmail.com

And let us know, as soon as possible.
This is dated: Nov. 2nd, 2006

Thank you.
keith in nj - aaa ins
2006-12-02 22:16:18
i have been insured with triple a for almost 8 years and i noticed as i turned over 25 nothing happened no rise no fall my premium stayed the same i get a yearly policy for 1,600 for 3 cars and have only had 1 accident (not my fault) i got rear ended but when i was about 19 i got a rise in my bill the only explanation was that state tax had gone up, however even with the rise in the bill geico,allstate,state farm,aig, and mercury are all quoted about 20 to 100 dollars more in just a 6 month period it ridiculous why even bother advertising this junk
Jim` - Geico
2007-04-27 09:08:08
I just switched from Progressive to Geico yesterday 4:20-6/07. $#*&!!!! I think I have lapsed 1 or 2 days too, hopefully they and DMV didn't notice. I did save $75 for 6 months so even with the lapse fee if I recieve one I'd save over $60. That is unless Geico jumps my rate up for the lapse within this 6 months. If they do I'll run and hide in All States.
Jim` - Laugh
2007-04-27 09:09:05
Maureen in CT - Geico Reps get in wrong twice
2008-01-28 16:44:15
Though we have been happy with our Allstate policy and agent, we wanted to check the rates that were out there. As a basis of comparison, we got quotes for 100/300 bodily injury liability. The quote came back quite a bit lower than Allstate. I called to verify how an umbrella policy for additional liability would begin to cover us and I was told that it was 300,000. That part is true. When I asked if there would be any gaps in coverage because of the 100/300 BI, I was told there was not a gap. That is not true. I called back a second time and was very specific and asked if there were damages between the 100,000 per person amount and the 300,000 per occurence amount, who would pay and the rep told me I was covered. Wrong again. It was only after I sent an email to customer service that I got the correct answer. To be adequatelycovered with the umbrella the BI limits would have to be 300/300 so there would be no gap. This obviously changes the initial quote I received. The reps are either lying or they don't know what they are talking about. We'll be staying with Allsate.
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