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Wal-Mart's Spin Cycle Print E-mail
Written by David Batstone   

Wal-Mart has come to terms with the fact that its public image is taking a nose dive. According to The New York Times, Wal-Mart hired a top-notch polling group to gauge the consumer impact of its reputation. The results reportedly show that anywhere from 2 percent to 8 percent of Wal-Mart shoppers have stopped visiting its retail stores due to "negative press they have heard."

Wal-Mart is trying hard to change that public sentiment, of course. The retailer harvested bushels of good will with its aid to victims of Katrina. While government agencies floundered, Wal-Mart effectively delivered emergency goods to those in most need. Late in 2005 Wal-Mart also announced a campaign that it trumpeted as the beginning of a new era for the company. Among the noteworthy initiatives: reducing greenhouse gases at its stores around the world by 20 percent in the next seven years; offering health-care coverage to all workers for around $25 a month; and calling on Congress to raise the nation's minimum wage above the current $5.15 per hour.

All good steps. Nonetheless, I can't help but feel cynical about Wal-Mart's efforts. The company seems more concerned about public relations than an actual reform of its business operations. Wal-Mart now has a rapid-response "war room" that handles criticism like a political operative. In actual fact, former advisers from the Reagan, Clinton, and Kerry electoral campaigns coordinate the image campaign. For that reason, it is hard to separate fact from spin at Wal-Mart.

To its credit, the company did host a public forum on its business practices last November. Advertised as "An In-Depth Look at Wal-Mart and Society," the retailer invited nine economists to assess its effects on the economy. Overall, the news was not good for the host. The majority of the economists put forward research demonstrating that Wal-Mart makes total payroll wages per person fall in towns where it does business and increases Medicaid costs significantly among its own workers.

On the other side of the ledger, Jerry Hausman, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, showed that Wal-Mart's entry into a local market lowers food prices at all retailers about 25 percent, with the biggest benefits going to poor and minority households. "I'm actually quite disturbed at some of my liberal friends who want to keep Wal-Mart out," said Hausman.

No one disputes that Wal-Mart delivers lower prices, nor the fact that Wal-Mart employs 1.33 million working-class Americans. But what are the trade-offs for these benefits? Will Wal-Mart continue to squeeze its labor costs to sharpen its competitive edge?

A troubling answer to those questions came in a leaked memo sent in 2005 by a senior Wal-Mart executive to the company's board of directors. The memo may be the best indicator of Wal-Mart's intentions.

Susan Chambers, Wal-Mart's executive vice president for worker benefits, recommended in the memo that the company hire more part-time workers in order to keep down health-care costs and screen out unhealthy people from the Wal-Mart labor force. The Chambers memo acknowledged that 46 percent of Wal-Mart's employees already were uninsured or on Medicaid. Nonetheless, the primary purpose of the memo was to offer strategies for slicing benefits even further.

The Chambers memo also clearly expressed her anxiety about how Wal-Mart?s battered reputation might suffer further if these actions were taken. Consumers and activists alike need to ensure that her concerns are justified. Even the strongest company brand is vulnerable to a soiled reputation.

*An original version of this column appears in the Jan/Feb edition of Sojourners magazine

Free downloads of the "In-Depth Look at Wal-Mart" research available from BusinessWeek

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Ulf B?rgesson - Contradiction
2006-01-26 04:29:37
In the market, we have two roles to play: Consumer and producer. Wal-Mart enrichens us in the consumer role by lowering prices; we get more for each dollar. On the other hand, Wal-Mart impoverishes us as producers by paying low wages and activley moving jobs out of the country. If widespread, in the long run, "walification" will thus also impoverish us as consumers.
Tom McMullen - Walmarts Spin-Poor Problem Def
2006-01-26 08:44:49
This nation is overwhelmed by a heath care system that is a desaster. Yet we are all over Walmart for trying to deliver low cost to clients by avoiding those costs. Has any body asked what percentage of parttime workers Walmarts competition employs? We must develop the strength as a Nation to confront the health care system mess!
Joe Niederberger - Is it Wal-Mart, or RULES OF TH
2006-01-26 09:55:40
I have no great affection for the type of person that writes a "wal-mart memo'. However, we cannot create a just society by every now and then identying a villian-du-jour (Nike, Kathy Lee, Wal-Mart) and acting as though fixing one player and we can all get get back to "business". It's "BUESINESS" itself that is sick, at least by TODAY's RULES. Change the rules, then enforce them. Look how many compaines are shedding their pension and healthcare obligations today. Something is DEEPLY wrong with the game as it stands, Wal-Mart is just a rock tumbling down the hill -watcj out for the avalanche.
Shel Horowitz - Many grounds to oppose Wal-Mar
2006-01-26 10:07:20
I will give credit where credit is due; Wal-Mart did indeed do a great job after Katrina, and I thanked them publicly, at http://www.principledprofits.com/pp3-1.html

However, everywhere else I look, I see a company shifting its benefit costs to the public sector, driving jobs overseas and not adequately monitoring the working conditions, using subcontractors in this country who pay slave wages, forcing large retail stores into communities that can't handle the traffic (such as my own town, where we're battling a super W-M that would cover 52 acres of farm and wetland in an already traffic-saturated area. Oh, yes, and we already have a Wal-Mart.

This is only the short version of what could be a much longer list. I do not shop there. And I can't imagine Wal Mart ever signing the Business Ethics Pledge.

--Shel Horowitz, author, Principled Profit: Marketing That Puts People First
jerry hewes - Wal-Mart etc.
2006-01-26 10:24:42
As long as we as a society continue to hold competition at the core of our philosophy Wal-Mart and every other employer is constantly caught in a conflict between what is respectful and what is competitive. I see this conflict daily and the application of competitive ideals works to destroy everything we want every time. Unfortunately, this kind of thinking is endemic coming directly from the highest levels of objective analysis simply because no one knows what else to do.

The truth of the situation is this. Modern objectivity and its equation with scientific and productive thought essential to survival is in fact destructive of the human environment. This misguided form of thinking has already excluded the self from the equations it makes. Think about it. When we think objectively in the current sense, the object is to exclude the influence of self. If this influence is exclude, when is the self included? Never is the answer and we get singular and exclusive visions of the world as competitive and whose ultimate unmoderated consequence is the death of everyone. Then because of this barren and corrosive vision we blossom forth with all the constantly failing ideals mechanisms which must be continually redefined and patched to keep us from actually acting competitive.

Unlike past complainers, a solution is offered. First intelligence is not the solution to ignorance, awareness is. This means competition is not the principle by which any human gets what he really needs. Respect is. Respect is capable of moderating any human circumstance for the benefit of all and each of us have the necessary guidance system inside. It?s called the self. This substance is the only value we know and modern visions of objectivity exclude it. Our need is to bring this awareness to everyone. We have a colossal educational system. Let's start using it for something genuinely productive.

Claire P. - Wal-Marts Reputation Problems
2006-01-26 10:29:10
Wal-Mart's problems won't be corrected by a "war room" addressing its public image. It needs to go back to the basic concepts on which it was founded, good customer service and fair prices - particularly the customer service aspect. I rarely feel as if I've received good customer service at any Wal-Mart. As I matter of fact, many times I prefer shopping elsewhere. I think Wal-Mart has lost Sam Walton's vision and that is sad. I think if they go back to the basics, many of these issues could be resolved. Instead, they chase after the "almighty dollar" and we all lose, even their employees.
carol routh - wal-mart
2006-01-26 11:36:58
i don't trust wal-mart farther than i could throw a super center, no matter how fast and furious they spin. pray tell, what use are lower prices in the long run if people are making lower wages? what with losing local businesses, health insurance, and rent money, this seems like a net loss to me. i will not buy from wal-mart; i buy locally because i want those local businesses to be around for the long run. fortunately for me, i live in portland, oregon, where local businesses are still strong, and we've had some successes in limiting and/or keeping wal-mart out of our communities.
Eli Johnson - Wal-Mart
2006-01-26 12:11:17
Wal-Mart has singlehandedly changed the way that ALL of America conducts business and thus, the global economy. The healthcare and business industry is indeed a mess, but part of the reason is the mindset that Wal-Mart created of bullying providers/vendors to do it at the lowest cost possible. Companies must make money to provide jobs and benefits - if they are driven to provide products or services for lower costs than reasonable then the benefits are usually the first thing to go. Next are jobs as our barely mininum wage jobs can easily be shipped overseas - where none of the concerns of America (wages, environmental, child labor, etc) are an issue. I live near a manufacturing area that was completely decimated when Wal-Mart decided to do business with an overseas manufacturer. It amazes me that the very people that lost their jobs due to their jobs going overseas directly because of Wal-Mart are the very people that shop almost exclusively at Wal-Mart. The irony is complete when you remember that when Wal-Mart first hit the scene their focus was on selling American made products... Wal-Mart is an insidious Svengali. Their effect is global and has changed American business standards for the worse.


America made
Tom Mentzer - Spin may not be the problem
2006-01-26 13:02:02
W-M is so deep in the reputation hole right now, pretty much anything they do is going to look insincere and reactionary. Oddly enough, I am now hearing some theorize that their eroding market share may not be so much the result of negative press and bad reputation as it is plain old "survival of the fittest" capitalism...Target is picking away at them. A slightly more down-market form of "Massclusivity" (and Target does it so well) may, in fact, be taking hold at W-M's expense.

According to TrendWatch, Massclusivity is defined as....

"The popularity of Royal-Class airport lounges and invitation-only Centurion credit cards are just two examples of modern man's immense need for respect and privilege. The more access consumers have to outstanding quality goods and services (the DVD player in your living room probably doesn?t differ too much from the one Queen Elizabeth?s grandchildren use to watch ?Lord of the Rings?), the more they want exclusivity and status of a different order. The kind that visibly sets you apart from the masses and gives you access to privileges most others won?t get.
This 'exclusivity for the masses?, or Massclusivity, can be an instant add-on and revenue booster for many services in the public domain. Massclusivity is NOT about exclusively opening up Harrods or Macy?s late Sunday night for a Hollywood super-celeb looking for a last-minute party dress, but rather about setting up special in-store coffee lounges or luxurious fitting rooms for members only. Respect and privilege are scarce nowadays. Reason enough to add them to your offerings".


P.S. I may be off-base with this...there's the real possibility W-M's core is totally immune to this stuff. Low price is king when you're living on a very limited household budget...get all wrenched up over social responsibility takes a back seat when junior needs a new pair of shoes.
David Kimball - Wal-Mart Response
2006-01-26 14:03:29
I'm concerned with what I see is the response of progressives towards Wal-Mart. Yes, it's wages are low. But are they lower than any of the stores in the mall that hire only teenagers? Shouldn't our concern be to impose Fair Wages rather than maintain the pathetic minimum wage? Wal-Mart, from what I see, isn't the only one not paying fair wages. But they are the biggest so they make a big target.

The other concern I hear is health coverage. Shouldn't we use this, plus the situation of the auto mfgrs, as proof positive we need a paradigm change for our health coverage? It makes no sense for our healt coverage to be done by our employers. Shouldn't Wal-Mart and the auto mfgrs be leading the fight to change our current system? And shouldn't we be joining them in insisting on changing our society's handling of both health care and fair wages?

I think so.
Vince Tidwell - New Models for Wealth Distribu
2006-01-26 15:06:21
I reponded to you once before regarding your excellent piece about Henry Ford, his contribution to the US economy, how that model is breaking down and its effects.

I now read your article on Wal-Mart and can't help but wonder if is there are any revealing studies regarding the actual issue: The redistribution of wealth.

Redistribution of wealth is historical and inevitable. Whatever wealth and power the US middle class had in the past half-century is eroding and going to other countries and, to an insidious lesser extent, the apathetic world's upper class, as long as they can hang on to their assets and outrun inflation. The white collar worker looked with pity and disdain at the blue collar worker losing his job as he bought his foreign built car and took on more debt. Loss of livelyhood certainly couldn't happen to those who earned their academic pedigree. "I'm safe as a lawyer, acountant, engineer or doctor." Or could it?

Significant and substantial restribution of wealth is occuring at both national and international levels (gender too). Ignorance and apathy by those who now control and have that wealth and their short-sightedness will prove just how narcisstic we as Americans are.

Where's the solution? Perhaps isolationism? More government? No, that would just postpone our demise. We as a people need a different paradigm, a more egalitarian goal, a belief in ourselves of a country, not a bunch of ethnic affiliation groups out for their best (read: individual) interests. Let's try choosing our action list based on a few of those objectives, not just blind and selfish consumerism for a while.

If it's true that the definition of stupidity is repeating actions that are ineffectual and detrimental, then the US is dumber than all the great societies in our past put together. In this information age, we have no excuse - we knew better.
Liz Becker - Wal-Mart Dis-ease
2006-01-26 18:38:52
As a businessperson with global marketing and supply chain background, and as a mom who votes, I wonder about the long term effects of the relatively rapid 25% decrease in food prices in markets where W-M competes. You see, I am not at all at east with Wal-Mart. I am concerned about feeding my family and ultimately, my community.

These price reduction effects seem great in the short term, but how sustainable are they? Crops take years to grow - and people committed to making or growing food need to see that there are indeed long term incentives for being in the food business. Sure there was some fat in the system - but 25%!!?! Doubt it. Tell that to a dairy or a peach farmer.

My econ profs taught me that there is no free lunch and perhaps that logic can be extended to one that is 25% off. It just does not exist. Costs have not gone away - they have just been redistributed. How do I know? Well look at the increased costs of W-M employee healthcare - borne by other entities - ones that are off the W-M balance sheet. Look at the WinnDixie and Albertsons traumas - as a direct result of the "competition" in their markets. The NYT reported that WD's bankruptcy was a result of 94% of their outlets being w/i 20 miles of a W-M - They just cannot compete. The list of W-M related cost shifts goes on and on.

So as it relates to my and our nation's food supply - I wonder if I will have a competative choice once WM is successful in driving the others out of business. If we extend this further, will I even have food at all when W-M drives those producers out of business because they cannot sustain WM's demands on the thier systems - specalized pacaging, RF tags, just in time inventory cost allocation, etc.

Will I be able to taste non-GMO food? Will I be able to shop in a place where McDonald's is not a featured part of the retail experience? Will I have nutricious food choices? If W-M becomes the de-facto sole-distributor of food in the US or the world, will they guarantee supply in the event of a national disaster? To whom do they owe their alligence?

I hope others are concerned about this - beyond the ones in the "image war-room" (and yes they need a war-room - but perhaps it should really be a "business-practices war-room" that is includes WM customers and community leaders too)

Janet Auty-Carlisle - Spin Cycle
2006-01-26 19:25:57
Wal-mart again in the news. One thing?s for sure, they can get the press to notice them. It feels like a vicious, self-perpetuating cycle to me with this story. Wal-mart comes to town, buys up cheap real estate, moves out the mom and pop operations and hires locals at reduced wages and less benefits. Probably some of the same workers who were employed at the smaller places before with better benefits. So, then, these same people have to shop at a place like Wal-mart because it?s all they can afford. Has Wal-mart created it?s own spin cycle? How can one get off the Wal-mart turnabout? Is there a better way for them to do business? Probably. Up here in Canada they have tried to unionize two Wal-marts. One was successful. The other one was not and the store closed it?s doors and moved elsewhere. What happens to those workers after that happens? They have no benefits, they worked for less wages, they have no job because the local shops are long gone?.and, the Employment Insurance program only covers them for a year, at 66% of their huge wage, if they qualify. (and that?s hard to do!) Will unions help clean up Wal-mart? I don?t know. Will public opinion help clean it up?absolutely, if the public yells loud enough. They will be heard and, if it means less money in the pockets of the shareholders because of the backlash I can guarantee you that the policies will change?.It?s that bottom line thing again.
Tom Mentzer - It keeps getting more bizzare
2006-01-27 12:12:13
From today's Bulldog Reporter...

Wal-Mart Seeks PR Help In High Places: CEO Scott Enlists Aid of Prince of Wales To Enhance Company Image

Wal-Mart, which is under fire from environmentalists, trade unions and community leaders, has enlisted an unlikely champion to try to improve its image. Lee Scott, the chief executive of Wal-Mart, had a two-hour meeting with the Prince of Wales at Clarence House, the UK Times reported today.

Scott is desperate to transform the image of the monolithic retail organization, which has a history of building huge superstores on the edge of towns and squashing competition with an aggressive pricing policy. He turned to the Prince, a champion of green causes whose own lavish lifestyle often comes in for criticism, for advice on how to make his company more environmentally friendly and to give it more consumer appeal.

Only one week after the meeting with the Prince, a Californian court awarded settlements to thousands of Wal-Mart employees who alleged that they were illegally and systematically denied lunch breaks. The company has been fighting allegations for years, in and out of court, that it cuts corners to keep labor costs low.

Scott approached the Prince, whom he met at a White House banquet last year, after being impressed by the work of a British architectural designer with the Prince of Wales?s Foundation for the Built Environment in rebuilding work after Hurricane Katrina. At least one Wal-Mart superstore was destroyed by the hurricane, reports the Times? Sarah Butler and Andrew Pierce.

The Prince, who is acutely aware of the bad public relations profile of Wal-Mart, decided to go ahead with the meeting because it was a rare chance to meet the head of such a large company.

Romeo Bravo - Who shops at Wal-Mart...talk t
2006-01-31 08:18:48
I wonder if anyone with this perspective has actually shopped at a Wal-Mart? More than once or twice? Look at the people who shop there, look at what they buy.

These aren?t down on your luck kind of people. They are people who want to save money, shop in a clean and comfortable environment and have a choice of things to buy.

Do you or anyone who has this opinion know of the ?Mom and Pop? shops that have been displaced by Wal-Mart? Can you name them? Do you know where there are/were located?

Do companies also not have a duty to keep their costs down, which they pass along to the consumer? If Wal-Mart is such a terrible place and abuser of employees, why did 25,000 people recently apply for under 500 jobs at a Wal-Mart in Illinois? They actually must be doing a few things right.
Janet Auty-Carlisle - Yes...I have shopped at Wal-Ma
2006-01-31 08:20:42
Hi Romeo, good points for sure, and I appreciate your perspective. To answer some of your questions: Yes, I shopped at Wal-mart a few times but choose not to for many reasons, the most prevalent for me being the use of off shore workers. I do make an effort to shop locally at all times. That can be tough and it is expensive. I know many people feel they cannot afford the prices of other shops and I am not disputing that. As to your point about the local mom and pop shops I could name quite a few in my area. I know they could not compete with big box stores, including Wal-mart, partly because they could not buy in the same volumes and they did go out of business. As to the 25,000 people applying for 500 jobs in Illinois, that is not uncommon. There are many jobs going off shore. That creates a huge problem for the former employees. If there is no other place for them to work then Wal-mart it will be. As North America becomes a continent that exports many of our technical jobs to other countries, to save money, the local economy takes a hit. Witness Ford, GM, clothing retailers, IT companies and call centres for starters. Yes, companies do have to keep their costs down, but, the other side to that which I would like to see, and I know it is only a dream, is to have share holders not wanting such a large return on their investments. Realistic? No way. Nobody is going to say ?Oh okay, if it means the guy down the street can keep his job then I?ll accept that my shares are less valuable.?
I?m not naive about work/emloyee relationships. I am a board of referee adjucator for the Employment Insurance Commission so I have some knowledge base. Workers are being forced out of their jobs, they are being downsized, optimized and replaced by technology.They are losing their rights and they are losing their benefits. Wal-mart is but one part of this issue. They are not the sole problem that is for certain.
Eli Johnson - I shopped there too....
2006-01-31 17:02:32
Wow, Romeo. You are actually going to make us have to confess our past sins! As much as I hate to admit it I used to shop at Wal-Mart quite frequently until I saw the global picture - I don't shop at Exxon anymore either. Haven't shopped at either for many years. It is tough having principles!!

You didn't say where you live but you must have a different W-M clientale than the area I live near that was decimated by jobs going overseas. These people are down on their luck!! These are people that are now having a hard time buying food. The manufacturing jobs are gone and there is no other industry in this area to sustain that facet of our population.

I,too, can name quite a few mom and pop shops that are no longer in business directly because of the competition of W-M. They could not muscle/extort the discounts from the suppliers, therefore they could not compete. I make it a point to shop locally, plus its a nice bonus to have someone that is happy that you are shopping there!

Just because a lot of people shop there does not make it right. Look at the biggest picture - the world. Look at global warming, look at the environmental practices that the overseas manufacturers have (none), look at America - we must have manufacturing to survive, we can not be a nation of service providers. I could go on and on from the world to the person who shops at W-M...

While, W-M single-handedly can not be blamed for the state of America or the world - I certainly think they started the mindset that changed the way America does business today.
Romeo Bravo - Craig's List: The Digital Wal
2006-02-02 20:20:46
Janet and David: Just saw something interesting today in the news about Craig?s List and how it is now being compared to a ?Digital Wal-Mart.?

Comes into communities, guts local publications and destroys good local jobs and leaves no tangible benefit in its place but lower ?prices? and more ?merchandise? , in this case ads of all kinds.

Thoughts?
Rita Moore - Wal-Mart Outsourcing
2006-02-03 00:29:28
Please look at most large American Corperations. There is a National Crisis/Epidemic developing. Pesimistically speaking America is outsourcing everything and immigrating at such an alarming rate. I am very concerned what kind of a country we are giving our next generations to inherit.
Cutting our rights to freedom of Christianity is only the tip of the iceberg. In the coming decade English may not even be the primary language in our country. We can't win by boycotting Wal-Marts. We have to reform our Government who is primarily the root of all this chaos.
carol routh - who shops at wal-mart
2006-02-03 00:48:26
tom asked: If Wal-Mart is such a terrible place and abuser of employees, why did 25,000 people recently apply for under 500 jobs at a Wal-Mart in Illinois?

that is a measure of just how desperate 25,000 people are in that area.

no, i do not shop at wal-mart. ever. i support my local businesses. i buy fewer things perhaps, and i may pay more, but i don't buy junk that doesn't last. which is pretty much what i understand wal-mart has to offer. as yvon choinard of patagonia says, 'the poor can't afford to buy cheap stuff.' it costs more in the long run, in many, many ways.
Paul Everett - Wal-mart, just a symptom
2006-02-03 01:52:52
Small world, I know Tom McMullen personally.

Why are we focusing on Wal Mart? What about CostCo, is it a paradigm of virtue because it pays better wages? Doesn't it also put "Mom and Pop's" out of business? In fact, Wal Mart fears CostCo.

No, the real issue is systemic and banging on Wal Mart, et. al., isn't going to solve it. Tom is right, we haven't even defined the problem yet. It is actually a multi-headed hydra, I'm afraid.

The healthcare system in the US is broken. Don't look to Canada or Britain. Look instead to Japan's system. It works. They lead in most measures of health of a population.

The mass production system is being supplanted by The Toyota Way (J. Liker). It's why our auto industry is in deep trouble. They haven't gotten the message yet. Lean Thinking is one of the things Wal Mart and CostCo are good at. (And, to the lady they thinks 25% is too much to take out, I can say, "It's a snap" to take that out of unexamined systems and the grocery business is certainly one of those.

Our education system is broken. We regularly graduate 20% from our highschools who can't read or write functionally. It's criminal. And, it isn't the student's fault. It's the system and it's broken. And, Education is one of the very hardest to change, that's personal experience talking.

Our governance system is corrupt and broken. Money rules. Even those of high values get corrupted by the system. The elimination of the inheritance tax is/will be a disaster for our society. Oligarchy, here we come.

I could go on, but the core point is: we have to ask the right questions about the SYSTEM itself. Fixes here and there are dysfunctional. An island in a continent of ineffectiveness.

So, let's not point fingers, let's begin to THINK about the issues, deeply.
Liz Becker - sustainable cuts
2006-02-03 02:57:36
Its a Snap? Tell that to the displaced worker at my local Albertsons that closed last week.

Any cost cut that a system takes, and hopes to survive - must leave the majority of the value producting assets in place - or at least replace them with acceptable alternatives. But those take time.

While "its a snap" to reduce costs so dramatically, a 25% reduction in costs forces out distribution and supply competition over the long haul. Think about sustaining the system - not just gutting it.

What will WM -and yes, even CostCo, do next to achive such operational effeciencies - dare we ask? Dare we not?
Robert Cenek, Cenek Company - Picking on Poor Walmart??
2006-02-04 02:03:57
Walmart, or any firm, whether it be Enron, WorldCom...whoever, has to answer to social critics for the nature of their transgressions. Yes, we do have some larger issues to address - namely greed.

I find it interesting that the 4 main remaining Walton heirs are worth close to $100 billion, and they have earmarked somewhere around $4-5 billion to charity. Bill Gates is worth approximately $50 billion, but has earmarked, I believe, around $26 billion. What does this equation signify???
David Kimball - WalMart Not the Problem
2006-02-09 14:06:59
To me, the problem isn't WalMart. They don't pay their employees less than all of the teens working at the mall stores. WalMart just makes a big target. (Double entendre intended.) The issue isn't WalMart but rather Fair Wages. We need to address the issue of Fair Wages with respect to both ends of the spectrum. What value is added by the retail workers? by the migrant pickers? By the seamstresses? etc. They all should be getting fair wages which is much more than our national or state minimums.

The other end should also be evaluated. Does a sports player really add so many millions of value? Does a CEO who oversees the destruction of his company and the working lives of how many people deserve his millions? What about the entertainers?

We need to evaluate how value plays into our products and services and pay accordingly. This is the collaborative approach. But we will need to be willing to pay fair prices. The cost of lettuce will go up, but it should. But the cost of sneakers will come down - not because the workers will be paid less, but because the non-value adding cost of marketing will come down.
Discipula - The W Companies
2006-02-24 08:48:02
I'm popping into the middle of this Wal-Mart thing, and wonder 'why Wal-Mart?'

Did I miss months of WSJ news articles skewering this company? I must have.

First, may I assume most posters here are on the west coast? And may I further assume, specifically in the bay area? If so, then WalMart is far, far from the major player in retail hereabouts.

If you knock around the city, tell me which W company you see the most, matching the number of Starbucks units on every 6th corner.

Certainly, the Evil Corporate Empire is here to stay, for now, and certainly they make profit. I would ask, skeptic that I am, what precisely is wrong with profit?

I must be missing something.
Connie Leyva - Wal-Mart
2006-03-01 11:48:19
I would like to respond to the ill informed people who think that because 25,000 people applied for 500 jobs recently at a Wal-Mart in Illinos that Wal-Mart is doing something right. This is not rocket science, these people did NOT choose a $7.00 per hour job over a job that pays $18.00 per hour with medical benefits, There was no choice, it was WAl-Mart or no job. Show me the people who would rather make $11.00 per hour less and pay for their healthcare then maybe we can talk about what Wal-Mart is "doing right". Good middle income jobs in America are becoming a thing of the past becuase of companies like Wal-Mart that put profits before people.
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YSL Grey Tribtoo Platform Slingbacks
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YSL Red Biarritz Sandals
YSL Red Crocodile Downtown Large Tote
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YSL Red Tribtoo Pumps
YSL Silver Crocodile Grain Muse Bag
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YSL Wheat Majorelle Handbag
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Yves Saint Laurent Apricot Snakeskin Muse Bag
Yves Saint Laurent Black Crocodile Downtown Large Tote
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Yves Saint Laurent Black Majorelle Handbag
Yves Saint Laurent Black Snake Tribtoo Pumps
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Yves Saint Laurent Black Wedged Boots
Yves Saint Laurent Blue Snakeskin Muse Bag
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Yves Saint Laurent Classic High Heel Slingbacks
Yves Saint Laurent Deep Coffee Crocodile Downtown Large Tote
Yves Saint Laurent Deep Red Tribtoo Pumps
Yves Saint Laurent Golden Crocodile Grain Muse Bag
Yves Saint Laurent Grey Tribtoo Platform Slingbacks
Yves Saint Laurent Grey Tribtoo Pumps
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Yves Saint Laurent Light Coffee Crocodile Downtown Large Tote
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Yves Saint Laurent Pink Biarritz Sandals
Yves Saint Laurent Pink Snakeskin Muse Bag
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Yves Saint Laurent Red Majorelle Handbag
Yves Saint Laurent Red Tribtoo Pumps
Yves Saint Laurent Silver Crocodile Grain Muse Bag
Yves Saint Laurent Silver Flat Sandals
Yves Saint Laurent Silver Tribtoo Platform Slingbacks
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Yves Saint Laurent Snake YSL Platform Boots
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Yves Saint Laurent Wheat Majorelle Handbag
Yves Saint Laurent White Biarritz Sandals
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Yves Saint Laurent Y Platform Booties
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